Slavs are the most numerous ethnic and linguistic group in Europe inhabiting about half of European continent and significant part of Asia. 9 особа прича о овоме. In general, the Illyrians were enemies of the Macedonians since they had invaded Macedonia around 393 BC. The proponents of the South Slavic national movements (especially among Croats) claimed that their people were descended from the Illyrians and propagated the cultural, ethnic and political unity of all South Slavs. Between 800-1000 A.C the Albanian regions were part of the mighty Bulgarian Kingdom. The evidence that's Slavs killed and burned Illyrians is overwhelming. A Mucus Sample suffices to get a sample of your DNA. Serbs must go to parties over weekend, hence the protests, students are also representatives of classic mob, money wasted on education of fools, Rexo never was & never will be a Pelasgian, Big earthquake in Croatia, you could feel it in most of Serbia too. Iliri su slavenskog roda i jezika, povijest Ilira je povijest naših drevnih slavenskih predaka Important notice: the following results are only from the Orthodox population of Serbia which is why R1a is higher that average results and E1b is lower The haplogroups that make the Serbian genetic pool are as follows: I2a1b-L621: 32.49% – Sclavenian (South Slavic) R1a: 23.48% – “North“ Slavic (more common for western and eastern Slavs, southern Slavs are usually I2a) We are Slavs. The origin of all ancestors is determined according to regions and percentages. The Romans conducted their campaigns mainly from their bases on the Italian Adriatic coast, but also from the Gallia Cisalpina. There is evidence to back up the Slavic migration. & Pro. Also I agree Albanians come from the Caucasus The term Illyria was probably the only one available with the necessary range of meaning to cover even approximately the areas under consideration; it is certain that this term paved the way for the late antique use of the word, as "Illyrian" under Emperor Septimius Severus (193-211 AD) described the army stationed in the Balkans and later several emperors who came from the Balkans. Albanian is an Indo-Germanic language, which represents a branch of the language in its own right. Of letters with diacritics, only the letters č, ž, š and ě are retained. The Senate Province of Illyricum included large parts of the later province of Dalmatia and parts of Pannonia. The Illyrians, bearers of the Hallstatt culture, were divided into tribes, each a self-governing community with a council of elders and a chosen leader. But, Illyrians were largely Neolithic in genetics after their assimilation into Rome. In fact, the ancestors of the Illyrian emperors belonged - as far as can be seen from the written sources - to the more or less strongly Romanised provincial population of the Danube countries. The Illyrians were assimilated by the Roman colonists and probably by other people too. Jul 2008 196. Sv78. Germanic Tribes It is based mainly on similarities between Illyrian and Albanian language and the high density of old Balkan toponyms in the region in question. Above all Albanian, but also some non-Albanian researchers are of the opinion that the Albanian language is the successor of Illyrian. When I see a GOOD nice German, I know there is a SERB inside. Because of their semi-legendary character, the Illyrians were well suited as a starting point for national identity building. A central research problem is the question of an Illyrian tribe, because from the beginning the word "Illyrians" has been used by the ancient authors in the meaning of a tribal association. ^2 clowns ....both with red chapped hands from high-fiving each other or who knows what else, It is high treason for a Greek or Serb to acknowledge Albanians as descendants of the Illyrians. Pol. After the defeat of King Perseus of Macedonia in 168 BC, it was incorporated into the province of Macedonia. The Illyrians were not an ethnically homogeneous people, but a confederation of different tribes. If you wish to start a new discussion or revive an old one, please do so on the current talk page Epirus. written and online after approx. According to a third hypothesis, Albanian is the continuation of an Old Balkan idiom, which is not the same as Illyrian or Thracian, but a third language that has not been handed down. ok... Anyways this is not the point. But only the southeastern regions of the Adriatic coast with hinterland can be rightly called Illyrian. Among them were the Dalmatians in central Dalmatia, the Liburnians (northwest Dalmatia), Taulantians (northern Albania), Breukians (on the lower course of the Sava, Sirmies), Japods (western Bosnia), Paeonians (northeast of Macedonia), and others. The Thracians were advanced in metalworking and in horsemanship. Pol. Pre-Indo-Germanic populations were involved in the process of Illyrian ethnogenesis, which entered into a union with the oldest Indo-Germanic immigrants. The Dardanians, for example, are thought to have been a Thracian tribe whose culture was transformed by the Illyrian one. свиђања. Already under Augustus (63 B.C. There are great onomastic and cultural differences between the different peoples in Illyria. Two great misconceptions, mostly malicious (nationalist-chauvinist-driven), reign the historical sciences in the western-Balkans for the last two and a half centuries. The origin of the Albanians has long been a matter of debate within scholarship. "Illyris" (as the Greek name suggests) was, according to Strabon (around 20 B.C. Also, northern Illyria bordered present day Austria and Illyrians and Gothic … ), Other History Topics (Arts,Sociality.etc), History Forum - Ancient Mediterraneans & West Asia, History Forum - Ancient 'Haimos' (Balkans), Provocative Politics and Propaganda or Deliberate spreading of ideas, info, or rumor, Pro. Pol. So aren't Albanians a Germanic peoples then? What should they do? Illyrians were attributed to south slavs in specific Serbs and Croats, Illyrianism being the essence behind Yugoslavia (South Slavia). Illyrians are people who populated modern day Balkans/Southern Europe. The disease? Do not edit the contents of this page. Celts In Balkans: Illyrians and Thracians …peoples dominated the area: the Illyrians to the west and the Thracians to the east of the great historical divide defined by the Morava and Vardar river valleys. Only personal names and geographical names remain of them; it is not even certain whether the Illyrian languages belonged to the Kentum or Satem group. 6 - 8 weeks. The hypothesis of Illyrian descent is based on the assumption that there is a remaining Illyrian population in the Albanian highlands, which survived the upheavals of the migration of peoples (4th to 6th century). Slavs (Bosniacs, Croats, Serbs) and other Roman tribes mixed with these early inhabitants. Albos came from Asia in 10th century. The earliest mentions of the Illyrians are found in Hecataios of Miletus (5th century B.C.). The geographical distribution of these regional cultures reflects the differentiation of the Illyrian tribes. Albgrots try to sell the notion of the Slavs as being Asian and .... Mongols like this Tatar "sokol" claims. ^^^^ church slavonic and the bulgarian empire, In the meantime in the real world : Greece indeed has a lot of Jakavica toponyms (Bulgarian) but Alb is full of Ekavica... lol. Serbs should only go to Bulgaria. The Illyrians on the Adriatic coast gradually acculturated, adopted Roman ways of life and, in the course of generations, also made a change of language to Latin. "Illyrian" here was not an ethnic attribution, but denoted the regional origin. the Illyrian peoples Dardani and Paeones are mentioned as allies of the Trojans. A world map shows your different origins. Illyria was economically attractive because of its mineral resources, which included precious metals such as gold, silver and copper, as well as iron and the forests. & Pro. This spoils their pro-euro narration. A strong tribal chieftain, however, could unite several tribes into a kingdom. My Deda's bro in BiH died of cancer. From this settlement symbiosis, in the area of northern Albania, the Albanian people emerged, in whose collective ethnicity the traces of Illyrianism have been preserved. When the Slavic people arrived to Southeastern Europe around 500-600 A.C the Illyrians/Albanians withdrew to the mountains and became nomads. Jul 23, 2008 #13 Lol and people in the Republic of macedonia are Macedonian like Alexander.. rep of Macedonia are Slavs, Macedon is in northern Greece. The relationship of the ancient Illyrians to the Albanians is controversial in research. and all known and unknown peoples). & Pro. You can contact your relatives by email to find out more about your family and background. Don't be ridiculous, they should be graceful they allowed them to go back home. Taking the sample is simple and painless and can be done at home. ^ the name Slav has many negative connotations stemming from their enemies, ROMANS! Excerpt from the Byzantian cronicle states that during visit to Emperor Vasilis Basil II "the Bulgar-Slayer" (Βασίλειος Β΄ ὁ Βουλγαροκτόνος). Nothing illyrian about them. The proponents of this theory base this on some lexical and grammatical similarities between the Romanian and Albanian languages, which can be traced back to an Old Balkan substrate. In addition to the online result, you will receive a noble certificate of origin in a picture frame and other documents in an elegant folder. Greek and Latin writers of the time after the foundation of the protectorate of Illyricum, who mentioned Illyria and/or the Illyrians, did so only with regard to the administrative organization of the Balkans or in the geographical sense, because the northwest of the peninsula belonged mostly to Illyricum. Ordered by 29% of customers for an origins analysis. > Focus > Middle East (NAfr/WAsia), Pro. The northern Albanian mountainous region had remained untouched by the Slavic land grab at the end of the migration period (from the 6th century). The unifying factor was mainly the locally varying degree of Romanisation. The point is Slavs need to get serious. Admine, very interesting, forwarding to wifey. Only around shkoder area Slavs burned every little Illyrian city, 40 cities in total. Trade and traffic of the Greeks with the Illyrians, feared by them as barbarian and pirate, took place since the 6th century BC via the two Greek cities in the Illyrian region: Apollonia and Epidamnos. The Illyrians (Ancient Greek: Ἰλλυριοί, Illyrioi; Latin: Illyrii or Illyri) were a group of Indo-European tribes, who inhabited the western Balkans in classical antiquity. But the conquest of the whole area inhabited by Illyrians lasted even longer. 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